G (who asked that I don't use his real name) and I met this past summer when he was visiting Romania. We talked over drinks and I was struck by his keen sense of observation about the way things are going in Romania.When I sent him the following list questions, he didn't shy away from formulating very pointed answers, and I'm grateful for that.
1. You moved away to Australia as a 6 year old. Do you remember what you first liked about the new continent, and what you missed about Europe?
1. You moved away to Australia as a 6 year old. Do you remember what you first liked about the new continent, and what you missed about Europe?
I
moved to
Australia when I was 7.5 – left Romania when I was 5. I spent a
year in other
European countries where my parents both worked as Engineers
before we
eventually received permission to migrate to Australia. Before
leaving, we had
been living in Germany for almost two years, where I had
finished kindergarten
and first grade in primary school. I had friends there, I
enjoyed the
environment, and I was not looking forward to leaving to
somewhere so far away;
these are also the things I missed.
Australia
is a very
different place to Europe – and was so even more so at the start
of the 1990’s.
It’s very insular due to its isolation – in a way, I was lucky
we moved to
Melbourne as it was full of migrants / 1st and 2nd
generation, as a lot of people left Europe after WW2 and settled
there. The
first thing I actually liked about the place is that, for all
its faults, there
are many good things going on – great beaches, nice national
parks, and on
average, less visible corruption (that still happens, but it
happens at a
higher level in politics/business/government and doesn’t
transparently affect
people as much as it does in Romania).
2. Do you maintain any traditions from the 'old country'.
Not
really. My
parents never practiced religion or forced traditions on me. I
mean, we speak
the mother tongue at home, naturally we also eat traditional
home cooked meals (which
are traditional to our family I guess), but beyond that, no.
3. How often
have you visited
Romania since leaving?
Not as
often as I
wished; with a one way distance of around 20,000km or approx.
one whole day of
flying (if you don’t count stopovers and waiting), and with a
cost running into
$2000 AUD return, it’s an expensive exercise. I’ve been back 4
times since
having left, twice when I was growing up, and twice since I’ve
started working.
4. Have you notice any changes over time?
Dramatic
changes. I
don’t remember too much from my two trips in the 1990’s (96 and
98) but my trip
in 2010 and 2013 have painted a dramatic and contrasting change.
I consider
myself fairly observant and the most dramatic changes I have
noticed are:
·
Between
the 1990’s and 2010’s consumerism has increased exponentially –
and with it,
what I would consider mindless brainwashing. The one thing that
Americans are
good at exporting is consumerism – and between 2010 and 2013 I
think Romania
must have adopted it almost as a national motto. I see so many
useless things
advertised (TV, stores, trams, even on people’s cars) that it
feels surreal. So
much rubbish that people don’t need but yet are convinced they
do. The people
from the 90’s that I remember – well they didn’t care for much
of it. They didn’t
buy into gimmicks, they were blunt and honest, and they shunned
throw away
appliances and preferred the stuff from 40-50 years ago that was
still running!· Between 2010 and 2013 it feels like the average normal people have lost hope – and by that I mean that the vibe I got when travelling and talking to people now, as opposed to three years ago, was that a lot of people didn’t see a future. I heard people lament that there’s nothing that can be done – that it’s the equivalent of “being stranded on a desert island, with just enough coconuts to sustain you and a tree-house for shelter, but with the waters slowly rising from global warming knowing that they’ll inevitably drown” (yes, that’s an actual quote). It certainly felt that way – and my opinion is that it’s because people have cottoned onto the fact that the revolution was “manufactured” to concentrate wealth and power into the hands of few under the guise of a new, fair, democratic system, yet 20+ years on things are worse for most when it comes to baseline living. It wasn’t like this in 2010 yet, so the change is dramatic.
· Renewal – some positive things that I’ve seen are that some select cities are being revamped / renovated. Places like Brasov have had quite a bit of work done and they look spectacular. Now if only the same thing could be done for other smaller places, and maybe if the countryside could be cleaned up a bit…
5. What do you like best about Romania?
On
average, people
over there are still very friendly and hospitable. The older
people don’t buy
into the lies the politicians are selling (they’ve seen it all
before) and don’t
allow themselves to be manipulated over trivialities like
background/heritage.
They’ll have a chat, share a meal, and just make you feel at
home. The younger
generation is the same as everywhere else in the west – and I
hope they take
charge and change the system to something better.
6. What do you dislike about it?
The
corruption. The
propaganda used to distract the populace from the real issues.
Trying to blame
things on one group or another (hell, this goes for other
countries where politicians
try to distract the populace by blaming something on another
group too). The
abject apathy displayed by the people. I’m not saying there
needs to be blood
in the streets, but at some point, something has to change –
people have to
shake themselves of their apathy, get together, and hold people
to account.
7. What do you consider to be a root cause for the negative light in which Romania is often portrayed in the media? Do you think it's justified?
This
is going to be
politically incorrect, but I’m just going to say it – gypsies.
Everyone assumes
that all gypsies and beggars they run into, known commonly as
“Roma” are representative
of Romania. That and cybercrime. Justified? Look there’s always
a little bit of
truth behind it, but on the whole, no, not really. Simply put,
you cannot just
lump a group of people into a category and blame the whole group
for the
actions of a small minority. The ones that cause the problems
need to be held
accountable. Anyone who is corrupt and accepts a bribe needs to
be held
accountable. The people need to change their socially accepted
moral code and
only then – when they don’t accept the status quo and weed out
corruption –
only then will things change. Running around and blaming the
entire gypsy group
is wrong and counterproductive – start by holding any person in
a position in
authority accountable, and if you disable the enablers, things
will sort themselves
out.
8. If you had the opportunity to work in Romania in your chosen field, would you take? Why/why not?
I
would not work in
Romania as an Engineer – or in any other profession that I can
think of – at least
not on a full time basis. This is not just because the lack of
income or
opportunity (I’ve met quite a lot of Romanian Engineers who’ve
left Romania specifically
because of this). My main reasons are as outlined above
(corruption, general
feeling) – but even then, the truth is, I could not remain in
one place for too
long – I long travel too much and I prefer working in a global
environment.
Having
said that, I
did say not on a permanent basis – so I’d entertain the idea of
taking a job /
running a business which took me in and out of Romania (and
other countries as
well), but I would still not live there on a permanent basis.
9. Here's a
soapbox, get on
it and give us any other thoughts on the matter.
First
– disclosure –
my background is ethnically Hungarian (well probably around 75%)
– and I am an
Engineer with ample experience working in the resources
industries
(mining/oil/gas) and a background in
electronics/ telecommunications, but don’t
hold this against me! (I’m also not a conspiracy nut / communist
/ socialist /
capitalist or fervent supporter of any one single ideology).
Firstly,
I think
Romania (and Eastern Europe) are in for a shock. There is so
much opportunity
to make something better of it all, but I think the people are
too slow to wake
up and realise the breadth and depth of the machinations with
regards to what
is happening. It’s blindingly obvious to those, in Romania and
other places, if
they don’t let themselves be led by mindless consumerism.
People
need to want
change – and be willing to fight for it. I think this is
something that has
been lost on the new generation (thank you TV, Internet, and
learned
complacency via brainwashing media!). They need to rid
themselves (through
legal avenues) of the corrupt politicians. The country needs to
reform and society
needs to take an introspective approach; do people really want
to leave their grandchildren
a crumbling shell of a nation as their legacies? The country is
resource,
intellect, and labour rich. It has extremely innovative people,
who leave
because the opportunities don’t exist locally to express these
ideas and have
them flourish. None of this will happen without reforms.
I
don’t know which system
works best – but I can tell it’s not the current one. The
Scandinavian style of
social policies, to me, seems to mix just the right amount of
social welfare
with capitalism and consumerism; barriers to entry are low when
it comes to
businesses due the lowest corruption level recognised on most
globally measured
indices. This is something Romania can achieve. The people need
to want it, and
believe it can be done. They need to drop the feeling that
they’re a broken
people and do more things together as a community again, for the
good of the
group. (Yes I know this sounds like it borders on advocating
communism, but I
promise, it is not what I’m going for).
Another thing that really annoys me – what the
hell has
happened to the train system in Romania! People stealing newly
laid rails?
Nails? Girders? If someone’s doing this for profit, because it’s
easier than
holding a normal job – throw the book at them and stop letting
them get away
with it. Trains are what bring the tourists in (more so than buses
and planes),
so if you want more foreign investment in the country, make people
actually
enjoy their journey through it. The quality also needs to
improve, as traveling from Austria/Hungary (not going to mention
Germany/France) to Romania the differences were night and day.
Speaking of night, the overnight trains were disgusting … it was
very
sad to see. They need an overhaul.
When
it comes to
corporations, especially multinationals – the government needs
to make sure the
people are not exploited while politicians or friends / family
thereof receive
kickbacks. Corruption needs to be stamped out and this can only
happen if people
demand reform, and hold their representatives to account.
Naturally environmental concerns aren’t high on
the list when
people are finding it hard to make do / put food on the table. But
things like
environmental stewardship and collective consciousness are very
important. Your
coverage of the mining fiasco with Rosia Montana is an example
where corruption
+ multinationals + locals + environmental concerns came to clash.
I sincerely hope
that the mine is not permitted to go ahead, because the truth is
that it will
be a net cost to the country over the next century. This is
because CIL and CIP
processes, which are used in mining and refining gold, are very
hazardous and the
tailings dams need to be lined very specifically / maintained for
a very long
time – otherwise eventually cyanide will leech into the
groundwater and
contaminate the ecosystem / water supply. I could go into further
technical
details, but that will take a whole other post (I’ve worked with
tailings dams in
the mining industry). Suffice it to say, the public has not been
informed of
the whole truth – or the environmental impact statement and
maintenance
estimates were incomplete or incorrect.
I want Romania to succeed. I want it to be
better. I want
the standard of living to be high enough so the average person
doesn’t have to think
about “Should I buy that bit of beef and not have hot water / turn
off the
lights all the time to save on my electricity bills?” It’s an
embarrassment to
know that the social services have become so bad that average
people are just
getting by, on an average monthly salary (the law needs to change
on this one),
while seeing politicians driving around in €100,000 cars.
I would like to see a Romania which is not rife
with
corruption, where people don’t look at each other and think “Oh,
Romanian” or “Oh,
Hungarian” or “Oh Gipsy” etc. This is not idealism, it’s a simple
fact that
when people aren’t pushed to the edge of poverty, when they have
something to
look forward to, and they have work where they feel content and
productive,
these types of thoughts disappear / don’t really enter the
collective consciousness.
Yes there are problems with Romanians, Hungarians, and Gipsies – a
small, tiny
subset of them – but it’s no different with others in the world.
One thing we
need to recognize, as individuals and groups, is that most of us
have very similar
needs, wants, and desires – shelter, food, companionship,
comforts, and
opportunities (and to be left alone at times!).
On a final note – as much as I am for a “Global
Community”,
I don’t think Romania (or most Eastern European nations) are ready
completely to
allow insane foreign investment in certain asset subclasses –
things like
housing, farm land, etc for example should be restricted. This
only helps big
corporations and high net wealth individuals (and is one of the
reasons that
the South-East Asian nations are not permitting outright ownership
of houses
and businesses in many nations like Thailand and Vietnam). The net
effect,
Romania has already felt – unreasonably high prices that nobody
can really
afford, with very few becoming very wealthy and most being priced
out of the
market, even after the prices have fallen. I’m not saying this is
easily undone
or can be rolled back, but certain limitations could still be put
in place to
discourage this practice.
In summary, Romania will always have a place in
my life, but
only if there is systematic and positive change will it ever
become a focal
point again.
You know Matt, you can definitely notice a trend with the Romanian expats you interview, but I'm wondering whether from a psychological viewpoint this isn't to be expected. Are you familiar with the concept of a self-selecting sample?
ReplyDeleteIn this case, I think that most people who have moved away from Romania by choice or had very little contact with Romania after moving out of the country will naturally band together, in that they won't feel that their destiny is linked to the country.
There's a big debate here in South Africa as well, where people are mixed in their reactions towards South Africans who have emigrated and then bad-mouth the country online. The irony then is that the very same South Africans living in the country who'd normally criticise the country end up attacking these people, because the feeling is that if you leave a country you lose the right to criticise it. I wonder if the same thing is felt in Romania?
The way I see it, as many people as would ever want to leave a country, you can never have the mass-migration of an entire population - global migration is still reserved for a fortunate minority.
What about the majority of Romanians living in Romania, who cannot leave for whatever reason? Are their views more nuanced because they live in the very situations the Romanian expats you speak to only see from afar, or is there a natural tendency to overlook negative aspects of where you live (and cannot leave) so that you don't make your life a living nightmare?
Questions ... the more questions you ask, the more you have, innit?